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    Old 05-31-2006, 12:11 AM
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    tcc's experience really proves there's no reason to choose to not report, unless you happen to be enrolled in a school that will transcript a failure; it's safe to say this isn't the case for most of us. The big 3 don't do this, so what's the loss in getting your score? If you passed, yay... if you failed, darn, you can try again in six months. Even if it's one of the handful of [CLEP] exams that carry a letter grade (i.e. Macroeconomics, College Algebra), and you score the equivalent of a C, you can take your 3 credits and wait out the six months if you really want to get a higher grade.
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    ....I have another strange CLEP question to add your thread. I took a CLEP a few weeks ago, the PC froze during the test. After a reboot I was able to take the entire test just fine, and got my score report. I passed... waited a few weeks, Excelsior still didn't have the score so I called CLEP. They don't have the score either! They said to fax in the printed report and that they would look into it.. I'll be faxing it in tomorrow. Has anyone else experienced this? I figure I passed once, I could pass again, by why should I have to? Has this happened to anyone else out there?

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    ...Only A and B are correct.
    At the point where you have already taken the test, you really have NOTHING to lose by 'flipping the coin' and hitting the final "Report Score" button....

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    ....Anyway, if you choose not to score, you're not listed as failing per se but you are subject to the same retake policy as if you had failed. You'll be listed as a "DNS" (do not score) which is a different classification than failing........Your college won't even post it to your transcript if you did fail - so it won't bring down your GPA (if scored and not pass/fail). At best your out cash and time if you fail. But your wiser for the experience.

    This leads me to the questions of:
    1. Has this problem ever ever to anyone else? If yes, how was it resolved?

    2. Do you really have anything to lose? Does it count against you if you fail and have to retake the test?
    (besides the $80 [$60 +$20 admin fee]) and the time you have to wait to retake that exam?
    Time is on my side I can wait another 6 months to retake. I have waited over 20 years for a degree what's another 6 months.

    3. I know that you can chose to list or not to list on the exam that you area taking to have your score sent to you college. I am going to 'one day' take an exam. I am not going to list a college to send my scores to because I want to know before the colllege what am clep score is. (granted the college will not know instantly like I but I want the 'heads up' on my score.)
    Anyway, when I decide to have them send over my scores (with a $20 fee - of course) HERE is the question part....can I have ...back it up...just say I took the test twice [first time failing [rememeber not sending to my college scores 'instantly' then the second time passing]....how do/can I know/request that the 1st scorce does not get sent over? Or does the 1st exam score (wheather DNS or fail) get 'wiped off when I take the exam the second time?

    Hope someone in this forum can enlighten me on this. Because I did not understand after reading about the score reporting section. Besides that that I can chose not to have my score sent to any college.

    [FYI for myself: AT time of post 200 views/11comments]
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    Old 08-08-2006, 08:04 AM
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    This leads me to the questions of:
    1. Has this problem ever ever to anyone else? If yes, how was it resolved?

    2. Do you really have anything to lose? Does it count against you if you fail and have to retake the test?
    (besides the $80 [$60 +$20 admin fee]) and the time you have to wait to retake that exam?
    Time is on my side I can wait another 6 months to retake. I have waited over 20 years for a degree what's another 6 months.

    3. I know that you can chose to list or not to list on the exam that you area taking to have your score sent to you college. I am going to 'one day' take an exam. I am not going to list a college to send my scores to because I want to know before the colllege what am clep score is. (granted the college will not know instantly like I but I want the 'heads up' on my score.)
    Anyway, when I decide to have them send over my scores (with a $20 fee - of course) HERE is the question part....can I have ...back it up...just say I took the test twice [first time failing [rememeber not sending to my college scores 'instantly' then the second time passing]....how do/can I know/request that the 1st scorce does not get sent over? Or does the 1st exam score (wheather DNS or fail) get 'wiped off when I take the exam the second time?

    Hope someone in this forum can enlighten me on this. Because I did not understand after reading about the score reporting section. Besides that that I can chose not to have my score sent to any college.

    [FYI for myself: AT time of post 200 views/11comments]

    X,

    In answer to question 2: Once you have paid for and taken the exam, you have nothing to lose by clicking the "Report Score Now" button. If you DON'T click it, you will have wasted your money, your time, and will DEFINITELY have to retake the exam again in six months. However, if you click the button, you might actually have PASSED the exam. In which case you won't have wasted anything...and if you failed, well at least you will know for sure!

    In answer to question 3: CLEP will only report the HIGHER score if you take the same exam twice. You can also request that they do not report ANY scores that are below the PASS score. Also, you can specify EXACTLY which exam scores you want them to report.

    If you take 15 exams, you can ask them to only report the 5 scores that you specify.

    If you take an exam and fail, you can ask them not to report that score.

    If you take an exam and score low, but then retake the exam six months later and score higher, they will ONLY report the higher score.

    Hope that helps,
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    Old 08-08-2006, 08:30 AM
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    Quote:
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    ...... can specify EXACTLY which exam scores you want them to report.

    If you take 15 exams, you can ask them to only report the 5 scores that you specify.

    If you take an exam and fail, you can ask them not to report that score.

    If you take an exam and score low, but then retake the exam six months later and score higher, they will ONLY report the higher score.

    Hope that helps,
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    I am calling on your widsom---or anyones.....
    So techincally if I wanted to retake a test because I scored a 61, and wanted (needed) a 70. I could retest right? If so, what if I get a 52 instead. What happens then? Do I get the 52 or can I keep the 61?
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    Old 08-08-2006, 08:43 AM
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    Quote:
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    I am calling on your widsom---or anyones.....
    So techincally if I wanted to retake a test because I scored a 61, and wanted (needed) a 70. I could retest right? If so, what if I get a 52 instead. What happens then? Do I get the 52 or can I keep the 61?

    They will only report the higher score. So if you retake and score lower, your first exam score will stand.
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    Old 08-08-2006, 10:45 AM
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    Ron,

    Only A and B are correct.

    At the point where you have already taken the test, you really have NOTHING to lose by 'flipping the coin' and hitting the final "Report Score" button. You know that sometimes your final score ends up being higher than you expected in the few moments prior to clicking the final button. But if you hit "Do Not Report", you will never know...it is basically the equivalent of INTENTIONALLY FAILING YOURSELF (even if you actually passed the exam).

    If you click "Report Score":

    A) You will know for sure whether you failed or passed.
    B) You may well have earned your 6 credits.
    C) You may not have wasted your $70.00 fees.
    D) You can have Excelsior ignore the score if you failed.
    E) You can take the exam again in 6 months if you failed.
    F) You won't need to take the exam again if you passed.

    If you click "Do Not Report":

    A) You will DEFINITELY fail (even if you actually passed).
    B) You will DEFINITELY lose your $70.00 (even if you actually passed).
    C) You will DEFINITELY have to wait 6 months (even if you actually passed).
    D) You will NEVER know whether you actually passed or not.

    Take the test, do the best that you can...then hit "Report Score".

    That's my advice!
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    This is not true. My school has a policy which I think most average schools have is that if you take a clep and fail it, then you cannot retake the clep at any point in time. You must sit for the class traditionally. So this is when the bottom comes into play. For most people 70 dollars is nothing, specially when you have to pay 500-800 for the actual class.
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    This is not true. My school has a policy.......


    What school?
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    Quote:
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    How would they know that you failed (if you did not report the exam) and retested...still not reporting. Because you want to know the score BEFORE you send results over to your school...with an extra cost of $20. Well worth it if Your School has a policy of sitting for a class if you fail the celp test the first time.
    ????
    Please clarify this because I need to know if they will be ceratin 'codes' on my report showing that I have taken this exam more than once. Showing a failed 'code' or something to the fact that I have tested out more than once on any specific exam.


    Thanks in advance!
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    Personally, I can't comment on Spazz's experience with his school. I haven't requested a transcript from the College Board or failed a test, so I can't say if a failing score is included in the transcript from the College Board or not.

    However, I can say that some colleges will not accept a CLEP score if you ever took a college class on the subject in the past. Especially if you failed that class. In other words, if you take an American Government course and fail it, you can't take the American Goverment CLEP test to get credit for that course.

    So, in my opinion, it is still better to take a CLEP test for which your college will give you credit before taking the class. If you fail it, your out $70, 90 minutes of your time, and you may have to take the course. If you pass it, you paid $70 to get credit for a class that would have cost you $300 to $800 and dozens of hours of your time.

    EDIT: I have also just found out that some colleges (University of Florida, for example), require that CLEP exams be completed before the end of the student's first full semester of enrollment. In other words, if your school has such a policy, they may not give you credit for a CLEP exam taken after you have completed your first semester. As with all advice on this board, CHECK WITH YOUR SCHOOL for the final answer.
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    Personally, I can't comment on Spazz's experience with his school. I haven't requested a transcript from the College Board or failed a test, so I can't say if a failing score is included in the transcript from the College Board or not.

    However, I can say that some colleges will not accept a CLEP score if you ever took a college class on the subject in the past. Especially if you failed that class. In other words, if you take an American Government course and fail it, you can't take the American Goverment CLEP test to get credit for that course.

    So, in my opinion, it is still better to take a CLEP test for which your college will give you credit before taking the class. If you fail it, your out $70, 90 minutes of your time, and you may have to take the course. If you pass it, you paid $70 to get credit for a class that would have cost you $300 to $800 and dozens of hours of your time.

    EDIT: I have also just found out that some colleges (University of Florida, for example), require that CLEP exams be completed before the end of the student's first full semester of enrollment. In other words, if your school has such a policy, they may not give you credit for a CLEP exam taken after you have completed your first semester. As with all advice on this board, CHECK WITH YOUR SCHOOL for the final answer.

    My school has a similar policy that will not let you take cleps or anything else for that matter after your first semester. They are really meant for hs credits, like AP History etc. However, if you know people (deans), then you can get one of them to sign off on the creds. Which is what I am doing by making the excuse that there is no other course I could take. I go to RIT, BTW. I think someone asked.

    My school has a testing center on campus and you are required to test there. So they can I guess keep track of everything. Most schools also only allow a certain amount of credits from these tests, I have heard 15 is about average.

    I am also wondering if a failed clep shows up on a transcript. Right now I have a 4.0 and would hate for something to show up on my transcript saying that I failed a clep. Even though I do not think any graduate admissions would even care what I did on the cleps. But anyway.

    Just a bit from my experiences, hope this helps!

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    Quote:
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    My school has a similar policy that will not let you take cleps or anything else for that matter after your first semester. They are really meant for hs credits, like AP History etc. However, if you know people (deans), then you can get one of them to sign off on the creds. Which is what I am doing by making the excuse that there is no other course I could take. I go to RIT, BTW. I think someone asked.

    My school has a testing center on campus and you are required to test there. So they can I guess keep track of everything. Most schools also only allow a certain amount of credits from these tests, I have heard 15 is about average.

    I am also wondering if a failed clep shows up on a transcript. Right now I have a 4.0 and would hate for something to show up on my transcript saying that I failed a clep. Even though I do not think any graduate admissions would even care what I did on the cleps. But anyway.

    Just a bit from my experiences, hope this helps!

    I remember, you mentioned that your school has a very strict policy in regards to CLEPs. Forcing you to take the CLEPs at their own test center changes everything. Obviously, they are able to watch every move you make and can ensure that all your scores are reported to them directly.

    In light of that, it would make sense that your school might also have their own policy in regards to transcripting failing scores. I would certainly check it out carefully.

    It's always wise to find out the policy of the specific school you are, or intend to be, enrolled in. Every school is free to create their own policies, no matter how rigid or flexible those policies may be.

    Caveat Emptor, I suppose,
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