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    Old 02-07-2008, 12:15 PM
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    Hi studyhard!

    Well, in high school I took all the way up to Precalculus, but I did HORRIBLE in that class (my teacher even admitted to me he would give me a "C" so he wouldn't have to deal with me, STG!) and not much better in Algebra or Geometry. Math could never keep my attention, I had zero interested in learning it, and of course I figured I would never need it and I would always have a calculator. Now I really wish I had just paid attention and studied!!! Boo to me.

    I tried a couple of questions on the Instantcert college math section and I didn't know ANY of the answers. Is the college math CLEP mostly problem solving or are there a lot of math definitions? It seemed like the Instantcert cards for college math were more definitions than problems.

    Thanks for your help!!

    what's stg?
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    Old 02-08-2008, 01:48 AM
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    what's stg?

    AFAIK, FWIW, and IMHO, I believe it means 'Swear to God'!



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    Old 02-08-2008, 10:52 AM
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    OK, I won't be able to answer this for TESC students, but Christine Foley from Excelsior just confirmed that I can take the following to satisfy the respective requirements:

    ALEK-0003 College Algebra
    ALEK-0008 Business Statistics

    I've written to ALEKS to verify how the credits can be achieved (is it just by completing the courses or if there would be other requirements). Will update this thread when I get a reply.

    I tried out ALEKS yesterday and I must say I'm hooked! I'm now spending whatever free time I get 'ALEKSing'. I really like how the system keeps track of the learning requirements and how it has this intelligent system that keeps refreshing knowledge and skills on a periodic basis, it really takes the pain off making sure you're fulfilling the requirements before an exam.

    One interesting thing I noticed is that when I signed up for the trial, I picked College Algebra as the subject. A couple of hours later, I decided I really like it and went ahead to order a one month subscription (I thought this would be a very useful learning tool even if I don't get credit for completing the course). The system automatically changed my subject title from College Algebra to PreCalculus without Trigonometry. When I tried to fix this, I was unable to find College Algebra among the list (I found a title called 'prep for College Algebra' among other 'prep for' courses) . The system tells you when you're in the process of signing up that you can change the subject at any point without any surcharge so I thought let me go ahead and we shall see. Once I was done with the signup I was taken back to my same progress pie chart that I had on the trial College Algebra but now the title was PreCalculus without Trigonometry (so it seems that this is the same subject with different titles). Now I just need to make sure this is the same ACE approved course ALEK-0003. I should also check out the 'prep' titles, see what's the difference.

    Will be back here with any updates. Thank you Sandraeli for a great tip!


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    I'm expanding this subject in the following thread: http://www.instantcertonline.com/for...html#post25532
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    Old 02-08-2008, 10:55 AM
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    Here's the info from ACE's:

    College Algebra

    ACE Transcript Data: ALEK-0003
    Organization: ALEKS Corporation (McGraw Hill)
    Location: Online through the Internet
    Length: 60 hours (6-18 weeks).
    Dates: August 1999 ? Present
    Description: 60 hours (6-18 weeks). Student will be able to demonstrate sound, reliable knowledge of the elements of college algebra.
    Objective: provide mastery of mathematical concepts and skills in college algebra, enabling both practical application and further study at an appropriate higher level.
    Learning Outcome: Upon successful completion of this course, the student will be able to demonstrate sound, reliable knowledge of the elements of college algebra.
    Instruction: Major topics covered in the course are algebra review, linear equations and inequalities, equations involving rational expressions, manipulating polynomial expressions, integer and rational exponents; functions and graphs; polynomial and rational functions; exponential and logarithmic functions; systems of linear equations and matrices; sequences, series, and probability; and conic sections. Methods of instruction include pre-assessment, lecture, worksheets, guided study based on individual progress, interactive feedback, explanations, assignments, illustrations, small group instruction, independent lab work, hyperlinked dictionary definitions, optional digital support materials, reassessment reviews, and online quizzes.
    Credit Recommendation: In the lower division baccalaureate/ associate degree category, 3 semester hours in math (1/07).

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    Business Statistics

    ACE Transcript Data: ALEK-0008
    Organization: ALEKS Corporation (McGraw Hill)
    Location: Online through the Internet
    Length: 60 hours (6-18 weeks).
    Dates: August 1999 ? Present
    Description: 60 hours (6-18 weeks). Student will be able to demonstrate sound, reliable knowledge of the elements of business statistics.
    Objective: To provide mastery of mathematical skills in business statistics, enabling both practical application and further study at an appropriate higher level.
    Learning Outcome: Upon successful completion of this course, the student will be able to demonstrate sound, reliable knowledge of the elements of business statistics.
    Instruction: Major topics covered in the course are mathematical readiness; descriptive statistics; probability; random variables; distributions; inferential statistics; correlation and regression; time series; and quality control. Methods of instruction include initial assessment, printable worksheets, guided study based on individual readiness, interactive feedback, explanations, hyperlinked dictionary definitions, optional digital support materials, reassessment reviews, and online quizzes.
    Credit Recommendation: In the upper division baccalaureate degree category, 3 semester hours in business statistics (1/07).

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    PreCalculus

    ACE Transcript Data: ALEK-0005
    Organization: ALEKS Corporation (McGraw Hill)
    Location: Online through the Internet
    Length: 60 hours (6-18 weeks).
    Dates: August 1999 ? Present
    Description: 60 hours (6-18 weeks). Student will be able to demonstrate sound, reliable knowledge of the elements of pre-calculus.
    Objective: To provide mastery of mathematical skills in pre-calculus, enabling both practical application and further study at an appropriate higher level.
    Learning Outcome: Upon successful completion of this course, the student will be able to demonstrate sound, reliable knowledge of the elements of pre-calculus.
    Instruction: Major topics covered in the course are algebra review; functions and graphs; polynomial and rational functions; exponential and logarithmic functions; trigonometry; systems of linear equations and matrices; sequences, series, and probability; and conic sections. Methods of instruction include initial assessment, printable worksheets, guided study based on individual readiness, interactive feedback, explanations, hyperlinked dictionary definitions, optional digital support materials, reassessment reviews, and online quizzes.
    Credit Recommendation: In the lower division baccalaureate/associate degree category, 3 semester hours in pre-calculus (1/07).
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    Old 02-08-2008, 11:29 AM
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    Hi studyhard!

    Well, in high school I took all the way up to Precalculus, but I did HORRIBLE in that class (my teacher even admitted to me he would give me a "C" so he wouldn't have to deal with me, STG!) and not much better in Algebra or Geometry. Math could never keep my attention, I had zero interested in learning it, and of course I figured I would never need it and I would always have a calculator. Now I really wish I had just paid attention and studied!!! Boo to me.

    I tried a couple of questions on the Instantcert college math section and I didn't know ANY of the answers. Is the college math CLEP mostly problem solving or are there a lot of math definitions? It seemed like the Instantcert cards for college math were more definitions than problems.

    Thanks for your help!!
    >>

    I am sure that you won't want to be tortured for 12 weeks, but if you do, I took TESC's Math for Liberal Arts. It is MAT105 and would meet the math requirement for any degree except business. It really was very easy- minimal amount of homework and only up to basic basic algebra. (now, I say easy because I think others would call it easy- I had never taken algebra in high school- so for me it was a little uncomfortable) There was a tiny bit of consumer math and a tiny bit of graphing dots on a grid to make a picture
    Seriously, you should consider it. The hardest part for me was squeaking out the $$$$ to buy the textbook! Ouch!
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    Old 02-08-2008, 12:09 PM
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    hehe yeah STG means "Swear to God," thanks snazz.

    Thanks for all the info Gus!

    cookderosa, that class sounds like it might be perfect for me! Excellent, thank you!!

    Wow this thread has really been a big help to me, (and I'm sure others)
    I really don't know what I'd be doing without these boards!!

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    Old 02-21-2008, 07:47 AM
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    Quote:
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    AFAIK, FWIW, and IMHO, I believe it means 'Swear to God'!



    LMAO,
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    ok thanks.. now whats

    afaik and fwiw? thanks
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    Old 02-21-2008, 07:51 AM
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    I believe:

    AFAIK As Far As I Know
    FWIW For What It's Worth

    It does get annoying at times, doesn't it?
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    Old 02-21-2008, 03:59 PM
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    For the business degree at TESC you are required to take Qualitive Business Analysis (which to my knowledge is does not have a test equivelant) OR Precalculus. You are also required to take Statistics . The College Math CLEP is relatively easy, but again goes towards electives with TESC business.
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    Hi there Inwe.

    I was just wondering, what study guide did you use to prep for the CLEP College Math Exam?

    Thanks
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