Please post which Certifications/Training courses translated into Big 3 courses

[gus]

Anyone has an idea why Excelsior only gives lower level credits for ICCP language exams when ACE actually recommends them as upper level?

http://www.acenet.edu/AM/Template.cf...entFileID=1395
(Please see last page in the PDF document)

[BMWGuinness]

Originally Posted by gus

Anyone has an idea why Excelsior only gives lower level credits for ICCP language exams when ACE actually recommends them as upper level?

http://www.acenet.edu/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Search&section=Guide_PDFs&tem plate=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentFileID=1395
(Please see last page in the PDF document)

That's something you'll have to ask them about, each college makes their own determination.

[BMWGuinness]

Originally Posted by cbrchris

Satisfies the Business Programming Language

CSC218 - Visual Basic® .NET (3 credits) - ACE Course Number: ICS-0164
Introduction to Visual Basic® and managing controls; dialog boxes and controls; nature of Visual Basic® programs; Visual Basic® forms, files, and output; graphics, multimedia, and form templates; ActiveX and ADO controls; Internet access, Help files, and distributing programs; multidimensional arrays and the Windows® API.

cbrchris,

I put in an email to Excelsior at the beginning of the week asking which Microsoft Exam satisfies the Programming requirement, and never got a response back.

Do you think you could find out if you have a chance?

Here are the exams I think might best fit the requirement:

70-300 Analyzing Requirements and Defining Solution Architectures for Microsoft .NET 2 UL
70-330 Implementing Security for Applications with Microsoft Visual Basic .NET 2 UL
70-340 Implementing Security for Applications with Microsoft Visual C# .NET 2 UL

[cbrchris]

Originally Posted by BMWGuinness

cbrchris,

I put in an email to Excelsior at the beginning of the week asking which Microsoft Exam satisfies the Programming requirement, and never got a response back.

Do you think you could find out if you have a chance?

I had asked about the TECEP exam and the MS exams for the programming requirement.

Dear Chris,

The Thomas Edison State College exam CIS-311 TE: Database Management will satisfy the Database Management requirement. There are no Microsoft Certification exams that would satisfy either the Business Programming Language, Database Management, or Systems Analysis and Design requirements.
Previous Message:
Hi Sandy -

I have almost came to a decision on my plans for the Database Management requirement. I wanted to check and see if the CIS-311 Database Management from TESC's credit bank would satisfy the requirement for database management?

I also want to double check and see if there are any IT Microsoft certification exams that would satisfy the (Business Programming) or (Systems Analysis and Design) requirements. If any exams do satisfy either requirement can you please provide which ones.

Thanks,
Chris

[BMWGuinness]

Originally Posted by cbrchris

I had asked about the TECEP exam and the MS exams for the programming requirement.

Thanks! Sorry, its been a hectic week!

[gus]

Originally Posted by cbrchris

I did get approval from EC for two Penn Foster Courses

Satisfies the Systems Analysis and Design requirement

CIS240 - Systems Design (3 credits) - ACE Course Number: ICS-0031Role of the systems analyst in developing business applications; hierarchy charts; IPO; decision tables; structured English.

Satisfies the Business Programming Language

CSC218 - Visual Basic® .NET (3 credits) - ACE Course Number: ICS-0164
Introduction to Visual Basic® and managing controls; dialog boxes and controls; nature of Visual Basic® programs; Visual Basic® forms, files, and output; graphics, multimedia, and form templates; ActiveX and ADO controls; Internet access, Help files, and distributing programs; multidimensional arrays and the Windows® API.

cbrchris, I wonder if you've had any success with the Visual Basic .Net at Excelsior. The reason I'm asking is that ACE's evaluation is for Visual Basic (no mention of .NET). It is most likely an updated course and is most likely not evaluated. If you've just asked Excelsior if they'll take Visual Basic ACE course no. ICS-0164 they'll say yes, but is Penn Foster offering the same course, that's the question. You don't want to take the whole course before finding out that it won't work at EC. I've written to PF for confirmation.

Penn Foster has also stopped offering Visual C++ (my original choice) and has since replaced it with Visual C# (which is not ACE evaluated and thus cannot be transfered to EC).

I'm hoping the Visual Basic course works. I'm really not looking forward to taking an ICCP programming language exam.

[cbrchris]

Originally Posted by gus

cbrchris, I wonder if you've had any success with the Visual Basic .Net at Excelsior. The reason I'm asking is that ACE's evaluation is for Visual Basic (no mention of .NET). It is most likely an updated course and is most likely not evaluated. If you've just asked Excelsior if they'll take Visual Basic ACE course no. ICS-0164 they'll say yes, but is Penn Foster offering the same course, that's the question. You don't want to take the whole course before finding out that it won't work at EC. I've written to PF for confirmation.

Penn Foster has also stopped offering Visual C++ (my original choice) and has since replaced it with Visual C# (which is not ACE evaluated and thus cannot be transfered to EC).

I'm hoping the Visual Basic course works. I'm really not looking forward to taking an ICCP programming language exam.

I also was not looking forward to the ICCP exams. I have been in the IT field for many years. Programming was one thing I have never had to do. I can follow along with code and understand what the processes are when looking at code. For the VB.net course I have been struggling with it coming up with the code to do what I want. In the course there are 5 exams covering different sections. These are open book exams and just take time finding the answers in the text, not that big of deal. Some of them appear to have multiple correct answers and you just have to take your time to verify them. I have gone to quickly a few times and missed the correct answer a few times. if you take your time at it they are not a problem and anyone could score well.

There are 6 projects in the course that you have to complete. The first one is documenting a proposed problem and creating the psuedocode, flowchart, etc for the problem. The other 5 are actually creating a program using VB. You are able to veiw a finished .exe that acts what you are trying to create. You just have to make your program act and look the same way. I am still in the process of creating my first program. I just need to put more time into understanding the concepts and process. I feel I may have been better off taking this course at a local community college to have interaction with an instructor. I did attempt to sign up two different semesters and each one was canceled due to not enough students. So decided to try PF.

I see your point regarding the ACE evaluation and Visual basic versus VB.net. I still feel that they will allow it since it can still be argued that it covers visual basic. I feel that the approval I have received should be enough since I included the course # and class title in my communication with EC. Hopefully I will be able to complete this course and see if they will accept it.

[gus]

Thank you so much cbrchris for the detailed feedback. I really hopes it works out for you with the course and, ultimately, credit transfer to EC.

Unfortunately, Penn Foster said that the course has been updated. Worth noting is that the reply I got wass that they could not confirm (implies: nor deny) that the new course does not match ICS-0164 (ACE's).

So in short, this isn't the evaluated course. But, is it open to interpretation? I'd say most definitely:YES. I think it's going to be at the discretion of the people at EC. Fingers crossed.

I'm sorry to learn that the course has been a bit of a struggle for you at times and I wish you the best of luck.

I'm still researching options for three of the four required subjects in the MIS concentration (Database, SA&D and Programming Language). I think this will be biggest hurdle in my way of trying to satisfy the degree requirement as fast as I would've liked to (I was hoping May). The alternatives so far have mainly been the ICCP exams (yuck) or the courses from Excelsior (can you say 15 weeks?)

[Chebasaz]

ITIL is one of the new buzzword in the government contractor field; so in an effort to flesh out my resume a bit, I took and passed the ITIL Foundation certification this weekend. We use a very loose example of the ITIL processes here, so it wasn't that hard once I dropped all of the bad habits.

My question is: Does anyone know if Excelsior gives credit for the ITIL exams? I haven't been able to find any references to it on the EC site, and my Emails are, as of yet, unanswered.